BTC Pools - Antpool PPLNS and FPPS vs Pega-Pool Real Test in progress…..Renewable discount active

I just finished a comparison of F2Pool and Pega-Pool. Pega pool consistently generated more rewards after 10 days of testing. It was a clear winner or I would have continue to test. Since Pega won the last comparison, I will be now be comparing Pega-Pool vs Antpool.

Pega Pool Fees: 1% (I have the renewable energy discount active)
AntPool Fees: 4% for FPPS and 0% for PPLNS

The rewards shown in the below tables will include fees. Most will probably not have the renewable energy pega-pool fee active, so please take that into account if you are looking at this.

As far as the FPPS, this should be pretty clear after 3-5 days however I will let it run for 10+ days if it is really close.

PPLNS will likely be less obvious in a short amount of time since that is dependent on actually finding blocks. Since antpool has a lot of hash percentage wise it should give a good picture within a couple weeks or so, but to definitively say one way or another may be tougher at the end of the day.

I have one S19XP 134th at antpool FPPS, one s19xp 134th, and two of the same machines at pega-pool. These machines are all from the same batch, on the same network, all hardwired (no wifi bridge crap), on the same power system in the same building etc… Again, this is about as controlled as you can get this test. May the best pool win!

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Here are the tables. I two of the same miners at pega and one at the FPPS and PPLNS antpool. What I have done to get a better overall picture is add a final row to the antpool tables that effectively doubles the stats to give a better picture. Sorry I don’t have more of the miners. I had more coming in, however the vendor cancelled my order after a couple weeks and I ended up with the four that I got from badgerland (he was amazing to work with BTW).

Pega-Pool
Date Reward 24Hr Hash Sats/Th Remarks
2022-03-20 0.00081872 277.07 295.492113906233 First full 24hr
2022-03-21 0.0008108 273.98 295.934009781736
2022-03-22 0.00079723 268.6 296.80938198064
2022-03-23 0.00080644 273 295.399267399267
2022-03-26 0.00075439 276.34 272.9934139104
2022-03-27 0.00073105 267.72 273.065142686389
2022-03-28 0.00074601 270.95 275.331241926555
2022-03-29 0.00078723 286.69 274.592765705117
2022-03-30 0.00071034 259.1 274.156696256272
2022-03-31 0.00073709 266.85 276.218849540941
2022-04-01 0.00073252 265.34 276.068440491445
2022-04-02 0.00075747 276.89 273.563508974683
Totals/Averages → 0.00918929 271.88 281.635402713306
AntPool FPPS
Date Reward 24Hr Hash Sats/Th Remarks
2022-03-20 0.00037725 130.79 288.439483140913 First full 24hr
2022-03-21 0.00038822 134.48 288.682331945271
2022-03-22 0.00038878 134.19 289.723526343245
2022-03-23 0.0003844 133.47 288.004795085038
2022-03-26 0.00034812 130.68 266.391184573003
2022-03-27 0.00036402 136.54 266.603193203457
2022-03-28 0.00035588 132.46 268.669787105541
2022-03-29 0.00035384 132.1 267.857683573051
2022-03-30 0.00036136 135.07 267.535352039683
2022-03-31 0.00035808 132.8 269.638554216867
2022-04-01 0.00037247 138.26 269.398235209026
2022-04-02 0.00036028 134.94 266.992737512969
Totals/Averages → 0.0044127 133.815 274.828071995672
Doubled to match pega → 0.0088254 267.63
AntPool PPLNS
Date Reward 24Hr Hash Sats/Th Remarks
2022-03-20 0.00040267 133.58 301.444827069921 First full 24hr
2022-03-21 0.00036619 133.83 273.623253381155
2022-03-22 0.00041992 133.65 314.193789749345
2022-03-23 0.00045552 134 339.940298507463
2022-03-26 0.00033218 135.79 244.627734001031
2022-03-27 0.00037143 131.95 281.492989768852
2022-03-28 0.00034542 137.57 251.086719488261
2022-03-29 0.00042034 135.27 310.741480002957
2022-03-30 0.00035788 132.54 270.016598762638
2022-03-31 0.00039121 133.88 292.209441290708
2022-04-01 0.00029448 133.88 219.958171496863
2022-04-02 0.00041362 133.52 309.78130617136
Totals/Averages → 0.00457086 134.121666666667 284.093050807546
Doubled to match pega → 0.00914172 268.243333333333

Note: The final “average” sats / TH was just an average of all values in that column and not the actual total total earned / average hash.

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I’ll be curious to see how the PPLNS pool performs over time compared to the rest. GREAT info man! Keep the updates coming.

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Thanks! Statistically talking, antpool PPLNS should definitely outperform. Lots of network hash, 0% fees. Income should be pretty darn stable. I don’t know how you could get more for your hash. We will see though! By default AntPool puts you on FPPS, which is interesting. If you look at it from the perspective of FPPS and PPLNS, they have to be mining more than they are paying on FPPS. PPLNS ensures you get the most of what was actually accomplished (finding/solving/winning blocks). With 0% fees… Seems like a win win, but we will see. I imagine after 5-10 days on FPPS I’ll be switching that miner to either the PPLNS Antpool or Pega. I’ll definitely be leaving the PPLNS a bit longer to get a better feel.

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two days in and it’s already interesting

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My thoughts so far on this. Antpool FPPS is not worth it. I don’t see anything changing here. Pega and antpool fpps are very consistent and pega is consistently winning.

Now the PPLNS on antpool is a different story. I think I will, very soon, change the antpool FPPS miner over to PPLNS and continue the test on with two on Pega FPPS and AntPool PPLNS.

I get the feeling a larger pool like antpool with pplns and 0 fees could be a win win all around. Braiins is great and all, but there is sooooo much fluctuation in the payout amounts even though their 250 block luck usually floats right around 100%. Even then, they still charge either 2 or 2.5% (can’t remember) where antpool is 0% on PPLNS.

Feel free to throw some thoughts/opinions out there!

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I switched over the AntPool FPPS miner to the AntPool PPLNS pool. There are now two on PPLNS and two on pega. There will not be a statistical update for today (3/24). I will update on 3/25 so there can be a full 24hr payout on the PPLNS pool.

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Well, it seems like you can’t request a manual payout or change the threshold below .005btc on antpool so I’ll need to throw a rig back on the FPPS at some point to get my btc stuck there. I DO NOT LIKE that at all.

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I had to move a worker back to the FPPS pool until I reach the min payout. There tomorrow will be the first full 24 hours again.

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Tables updated and mining back to how the test originally started since I have to mine to payout of .005 on antpool. Rewards have gone way down in the last few days.

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Interesting to see sats/th being more on pega and they see more th. It would be interesting to see the share counts at each pool as well to see how that breaks down.

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I can not wait to hit payment threshold on the FPPS at antpool. That pool is awful. Pega really is doing well and I’ll probably stick with pega even if antpool PPLNS beats it by a little for the simple fact that it’s a smaller pool and it helps spread the hash rate.

Once I finish up the payment threshold on antpool FPPS, I may keep two on PPLNS and pull the data into my database and graph it in grafana and do the same for pegapool. Then we can really see how the two would stack up against each other over an extended period of time. I also wouldn’t have to be manually updating them each day either, which would be nice.

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Well… I think I’m done with this test. I’ll conclude that FPPS on antpool is definitely not as profitable as pega or PPLNS on antpool. I would pretty much call pega and antpool PPLNS. I don’t like the antpool platform as much, they have way more hash than pega and I don’t like that I had to use incognito to access their website login. With that said I’ve switched my miners all over to pega. I’m not saying there isn’t a more profitable pool out there, but if there is it would probably be a very minimally more and the choice would more or less come down to which platform you actually like more. This is just my opinion, do as you like :slight_smile:

@VoskCoin feel free to use my “research” as you please.

As a side note, the final “average” sats / TH was just an average of all values and not the actual total total earned / average hash.

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Top Notch work.
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to do this and feel I’ve definitely learned some current relevant information.
Thank you.
Cheers Mate.

You’re very welcome. I’m glad that it can be of help to others.

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